Comments on: Drugs World http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2009/drugs-world/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=drugs-world Ideas, issues, knowledge, data - visualized! Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:11:21 +0000 hourly 1 By: Frithjof Dauhttp://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2009/drugs-world/comment-page-1/#comment-43054 Frithjof Dau Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:02:42 +0000 http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/?p=48#comment-43054 late comment, as I only recently found this inspiring page ... The diagram obvioulsy causes heaps of contentwise discussions, which to me speaks for its quality. Unfortunately, is is *formally* not quite complete. The structure looks quite similar to he well-known Venn-diagram with three sets, and one might think this is essentially the same, now done with four sets (“antipsychotics”; “stimulants”, “depresseants” and “hallocinogens”). In a Venn-diagram, all possible combinations of the sets of visually represented, e.g. in our diagram we find a region which stands for drugs which are antipsychotics, stimulants, depresseants, but not hallocinogens. With four sets, there should be 2^4=16 such regions, but there are indeed only 14 of them (including the white region). Two set combinations simply don’t have corresponding region in the diagram, namely 1) drugs which are “antipsychotics” and “hallocinogens” , but neither “stimulants” nor “depresseants”, and 2) drugs which are “stimulants” and “depresseants”, but neither “antipsychotics” nor “hallocinogens”. That is: To me, the diagram suggests to show all possible combinations of the four drug types, whereas it does not. It might sound picky, but to me this is somewhat a flaw, sorry …P.S. There are Venn-diagrams for any number of sets, but they are not as nice as the famous “three-set-diagram”. late comment, as I only recently found this inspiring page …
The diagram obvioulsy causes heaps of contentwise discussions, which to me speaks for its quality. Unfortunately, is is *formally* not quite complete. The structure looks quite similar to he well-known Venn-diagram with three sets, and one might think this is essentially the same, now done with four sets (“antipsychotics”; “stimulants”, “depresseants” and “hallocinogens”). In a Venn-diagram, all possible combinations of the sets of visually represented, e.g. in our diagram we find a region which stands for drugs which are antipsychotics, stimulants, depresseants, but not hallocinogens. With four sets, there should be 2^4=16 such regions, but there are indeed only 14 of them (including the white region). Two set combinations simply don’t have corresponding region in the diagram, namely 1) drugs which are “antipsychotics” and “hallocinogens” , but neither “stimulants” nor “depresseants”, and 2) drugs which are “stimulants” and “depresseants”, but neither “antipsychotics” nor “hallocinogens”. That is: To me, the diagram suggests to show all possible combinations of the four drug types, whereas it does not. It might sound picky, but to me this is somewhat a flaw, sorry …

P.S. There are Venn-diagrams for any number of sets, but they are not as nice as the famous “three-set-diagram”.

]]> By: nAONhttp://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2009/drugs-world/comment-page-1/#comment-41723 nAON Thu, 31 Mar 2011 13:31:59 +0000 http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/?p=48#comment-41723 To those posting about LSD - it is an ergoline, which isnt a tryptamine (which are derived from indoles), but close enough to put in the category, no point having every single possible chemical class have its own list.And one thing that bothered me was the antipsychotic/tranquilizer thing. Ketamine/Nitrous were put seperately in psychedelics, yet they are also tranquilizers. while the group 'antipsychotics/tranquilizers' seemed only to contain the anti-dopamine drugs, so while they can be technically tranquilizers, i wouldn't group them together, or at least move the dissociatives around a bit To those posting about LSD – it is an ergoline, which isnt a tryptamine (which are derived from indoles), but close enough to put in the category, no point having every single possible chemical class have its own list.

And one thing that bothered me was the antipsychotic/tranquilizer thing. Ketamine/Nitrous were put seperately in psychedelics, yet they are also tranquilizers. while the group ‘antipsychotics/tranquilizers’ seemed only to contain the anti-dopamine drugs, so while they can be technically tranquilizers, i wouldn’t group them together, or at least move the dissociatives around a bit

]]> By: Luke Mitchellhttp://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2009/drugs-world/comment-page-1/#comment-41358 Luke Mitchell Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:28:41 +0000 http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/?p=48#comment-41358 As ale4ko points out, LSD most definitely isn't a Tryptamine. It is an indole and thus related, but is, in fact, an Ergotamine. As ale4ko points out, LSD most definitely isn’t a Tryptamine. It is an indole and thus related, but is, in fact, an Ergotamine.

]]> By: Xenocidehttp://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2009/drugs-world/comment-page-1/#comment-40939 Xenocide Fri, 18 Feb 2011 00:09:37 +0000 http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/?p=48#comment-40939 Notice cannabis in the middle.Why of course it is, it is the healer of all ailments given by god to provide the world with a cure to chaos and mayhem. The ultimate drug with no lethal qualities and a cure for everyday life. Why is alcohol legal where this cure is not? Hello population control! Notice cannabis in the middle.Why of course it is, it is the healer of all ailments given by god to provide the world with a cure to chaos and mayhem. The ultimate drug with no lethal qualities and a cure for everyday life. Why is alcohol legal where this cure is not? Hello population control!

]]> By: medicine manhttp://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2009/drugs-world/comment-page-1/#comment-40562 medicine man Tue, 25 Jan 2011 05:37:22 +0000 http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/?p=48#comment-40562 nicotine is a methylxanthine, just as caffiene. It is NOT a cholinergic. nicotine is a methylxanthine, just as caffiene. It is NOT a cholinergic.

]]> By: ale4kohttp://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2009/drugs-world/comment-page-1/#comment-38021 ale4ko Sat, 25 Dec 2010 15:22:44 +0000 http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/?p=48#comment-38021 Why lsd in tryptamines ? It should be in ergotamines with missing LSA . Where 5-meo-DMT , and other missing tryptamines such as bufotenin ? Why lsd in tryptamines ? It should be in ergotamines with missing LSA . Where 5-meo-DMT , and other missing tryptamines such as bufotenin ?

]]> By: davidhttp://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2009/drugs-world/comment-page-1/#comment-36311 david Wed, 01 Dec 2010 11:35:25 +0000 http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/?p=48#comment-36311 thank you Waldir - great find! thank you Waldir – great find!

]]> By: Waldirhttp://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2009/drugs-world/comment-page-1/#comment-36161 Waldir Tue, 30 Nov 2010 21:18:05 +0000 http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/?p=48#comment-36161 The original author seems to have been Derek Snider: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Drug_Chart_version_1.0.png The original author seems to have been Derek Snider: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Drug_Chart_version_1.0.png

]]> By: kenthttp://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2009/drugs-world/comment-page-1/#comment-35579 kent Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:33:12 +0000 http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/?p=48#comment-35579 What about alcohol? What about alcohol?

]]> By: Captain Obvioushttp://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2009/drugs-world/comment-page-1/#comment-32219 Captain Obvious Fri, 08 Oct 2010 08:16:52 +0000 http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/?p=48#comment-32219 Where is this 2.0 version you spoke of? Where is this 2.0 version you spoke of?

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