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	<title>Comments on: How I Learnt To Stop Worrying And Love The Bomb (Kinda)</title>
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		<title>By: Mark K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 23:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While insightful, this illustration only shows what it would take to destroy the inhabitable landmasses of Earth.  But you completely ignore the environmental impact a nuclear warhead has.  You&#039;ve heard of a nuclear winter yes?  It would only take a fraction of the nukes we currently have to make the surface of our planet uninhabitable through, not a massive explosion, but by radiation, and the effect of massive amounts of dust and debris being thrown into the atmosphere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While insightful, this illustration only shows what it would take to destroy the inhabitable landmasses of Earth.  But you completely ignore the environmental impact a nuclear warhead has.  You&#8217;ve heard of a nuclear winter yes?  It would only take a fraction of the nukes we currently have to make the surface of our planet uninhabitable through, not a massive explosion, but by radiation, and the effect of massive amounts of dust and debris being thrown into the atmosphere.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Cass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Cass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you have a look at any *authoritative* studies or just rely on your (impressive) native wits? 

Your illustrations are great but I&#039;m thinking that there might be more to this than just some simple calculations...

Think about the damage and cost inflicted by the 9/11 attacks. The total area destroyed was relatively tiny, but the consequences for the world were profound. 

Or think about the &#039;crisis&#039; caused by electricity blackouts, or internet failures that happen from time to time and destroy no real estate. 

Do you really think that life in the UK, for example, would continue in any meaningful sense if every City was partially destroyed by even a small nuke each? No electricity, almost no communications, no water or sewage, no news, almost no surviving doctors, few deliveries of imported or domestic food, radiation pollution, vast numbers of injured people, barely any law and order....

Your other visualisations are great but this one needs to go back to the drawing board. 

Like you, I grew up under the &#039;nuclear cloud&#039;, so I am interested to see you do it again with more sophisticated thinking, that captures the impact of a nuke on the complex systems that sustain our cities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you have a look at any *authoritative* studies or just rely on your (impressive) native wits? </p>
<p>Your illustrations are great but I&#8217;m thinking that there might be more to this than just some simple calculations&#8230;</p>
<p>Think about the damage and cost inflicted by the 9/11 attacks. The total area destroyed was relatively tiny, but the consequences for the world were profound. </p>
<p>Or think about the &#8216;crisis&#8217; caused by electricity blackouts, or internet failures that happen from time to time and destroy no real estate. </p>
<p>Do you really think that life in the UK, for example, would continue in any meaningful sense if every City was partially destroyed by even a small nuke each? No electricity, almost no communications, no water or sewage, no news, almost no surviving doctors, few deliveries of imported or domestic food, radiation pollution, vast numbers of injured people, barely any law and order&#8230;.</p>
<p>Your other visualisations are great but this one needs to go back to the drawing board. </p>
<p>Like you, I grew up under the &#8216;nuclear cloud&#8217;, so I am interested to see you do it again with more sophisticated thinking, that captures the impact of a nuke on the complex systems that sustain our cities.</p>
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		<title>By: Stop Worrying About The Bomb &#171; The Kipperstein Press</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stop Worrying About The Bomb &#171; The Kipperstein Press</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 00:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Nuke that destroyed Hiroshima is not by any means the most powerful bomb in service.
So if you&#039;re using that as a reference for your data, you&#039;re not going to get accurate forecasts for our possible demise.
There are plenty of nukes way more destructive than the B83.
The best example I can think of would be the ACTUAL most powerful nuke ever detonated...
The AN602 also known by many other nicknames such as &quot;Tsar Bomba&quot; or &quot;King of Bombs&quot;.

It used a nuclear weapon yield of 50 megatons. This is equivalent to 1,400 times the combined power of the two nuclear explosives used in World War II; Little Boy (13-18 kilotons) and Fat Man (21 kilotons), the bombs that destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
In fact, when the soviet union decided to test it, they only used HALF of it&#039;s explosive capabilities for fear that using it at maximum capacity would result in radioactive fallout.
The initial three-stage design was capable of approximately 100 Mt, but would have caused too much radioactive fallout. To limit fallout, the third stage and possibly the second stage had a lead tamper instead of a uranium-238 fusion tamper (which greatly amplifies the reaction by fissioning uranium atoms with fast neutrons from the fusion reaction). This eliminated fast fission by the fusion-stage neutrons, so that approximately 97% of the total energy resulted from fusion alone.
Even after deactivating it&#039;s fullest potential, it was still the most powerful bomb in the world.
And the effect was felt from around the world.
Here&#039;s a video on youtube I just found with all of the fact in the video description.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxD44HO8dNQ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Nuke that destroyed Hiroshima is not by any means the most powerful bomb in service.<br />
So if you&#8217;re using that as a reference for your data, you&#8217;re not going to get accurate forecasts for our possible demise.<br />
There are plenty of nukes way more destructive than the B83.<br />
The best example I can think of would be the ACTUAL most powerful nuke ever detonated&#8230;<br />
The AN602 also known by many other nicknames such as &#8220;Tsar Bomba&#8221; or &#8220;King of Bombs&#8221;.</p>
<p>It used a nuclear weapon yield of 50 megatons. This is equivalent to 1,400 times the combined power of the two nuclear explosives used in World War II; Little Boy (13-18 kilotons) and Fat Man (21 kilotons), the bombs that destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki.<br />
In fact, when the soviet union decided to test it, they only used HALF of it&#8217;s explosive capabilities for fear that using it at maximum capacity would result in radioactive fallout.<br />
The initial three-stage design was capable of approximately 100 Mt, but would have caused too much radioactive fallout. To limit fallout, the third stage and possibly the second stage had a lead tamper instead of a uranium-238 fusion tamper (which greatly amplifies the reaction by fissioning uranium atoms with fast neutrons from the fusion reaction). This eliminated fast fission by the fusion-stage neutrons, so that approximately 97% of the total energy resulted from fusion alone.<br />
Even after deactivating it&#8217;s fullest potential, it was still the most powerful bomb in the world.<br />
And the effect was felt from around the world.<br />
Here&#8217;s a video on youtube I just found with all of the fact in the video description.<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxD44HO8dNQ" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxD44HO8dNQ</a></p>
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		<title>By: Werner</title>
		<link>http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2009/how-i-learnt-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-bomb/comment-page-4/#comment-10391</link>
		<dc:creator>Werner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 03:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the environment would be rather polluted from the radio active fallout if all 10.227 nukes was brought to explosion.  It would not be the end of the world, but I´m afraid it would be the end of the world as we know it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the environment would be rather polluted from the radio active fallout if all 10.227 nukes was brought to explosion.  It would not be the end of the world, but I´m afraid it would be the end of the world as we know it.</p>
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		<title>By: BradyDale</title>
		<link>http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2009/how-i-learnt-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-bomb/comment-page-4/#comment-10357</link>
		<dc:creator>BradyDale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is FASCINATING! Beautiful work. Really awesome.

I just have to ask, tho... what about fallout and nuclear winter? 

Or is nuclear winter just counterbalanced by climate change? (ha ha).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is FASCINATING! Beautiful work. Really awesome.</p>
<p>I just have to ask, tho&#8230; what about fallout and nuclear winter? </p>
<p>Or is nuclear winter just counterbalanced by climate change? (ha ha).</p>
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		<title>By: Robo Sapien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robo Sapien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 03:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Contrary to these graphs, the fact of the matter is that it would only take ONE (1) bomb to kill both Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie.  The fallout from such an event would unravel society as we know it.  Those who don&#039;t immediately kill themselves would certainly die in the anarchy that ensued.

Next time, try factoring in Brad and Angelina, Mr. Smartypants graph maker!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Contrary to these graphs, the fact of the matter is that it would only take ONE (1) bomb to kill both Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie.  The fallout from such an event would unravel society as we know it.  Those who don&#8217;t immediately kill themselves would certainly die in the anarchy that ensued.</p>
<p>Next time, try factoring in Brad and Angelina, Mr. Smartypants graph maker!</p>
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		<title>By: DCN</title>
		<link>http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2009/how-i-learnt-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-bomb/comment-page-4/#comment-10009</link>
		<dc:creator>DCN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@CBM, lost of American testing was done mostly nevada.  but then you have to look at the soviet union, china, india, pakistan, france, the UK, etc. who didn;t have access to nevada as a nuclear test site.

And most of our(American) thermonuclear(the big/modern kinds of nukes) testing was done in the south pacific.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@CBM, lost of American testing was done mostly nevada.  but then you have to look at the soviet union, china, india, pakistan, france, the UK, etc. who didn;t have access to nevada as a nuclear test site.</p>
<p>And most of our(American) thermonuclear(the big/modern kinds of nukes) testing was done in the south pacific.</p>
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		<title>By: MM</title>
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		<dc:creator>MM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly this doesn&#039;t take in consideration the most devastating way to set off a nuke and that is in the atmosphere I&#039;m not gonna go into the math but the fall out from a blast that high up would be able to cover if not 10-20 times more area then a ground hit. it has been calculated that with the known amount of bombs if only about 25% were set off at key points it would eradicate the human race in a mater of 15 years due to fall out a nuke set off into the trade winds would spread fall out all over the world.... there is a lot to be afraid of if nukes were ever used.. a mass launch would kill all humans who didn&#039;t go underground hiding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly this doesn&#8217;t take in consideration the most devastating way to set off a nuke and that is in the atmosphere I&#8217;m not gonna go into the math but the fall out from a blast that high up would be able to cover if not 10-20 times more area then a ground hit. it has been calculated that with the known amount of bombs if only about 25% were set off at key points it would eradicate the human race in a mater of 15 years due to fall out a nuke set off into the trade winds would spread fall out all over the world&#8230;. there is a lot to be afraid of if nukes were ever used.. a mass launch would kill all humans who didn&#8217;t go underground hiding.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s probable that nobody will ever read this comment, but I still can&#039;t bring myself to see a bad idea like the one presented in this article go unchallenged, lest it might spread too far.

The fatal flaw in this article is that it only considers the &quot;total destruction&quot; radius of modern nuclear weapons.  However, the real killer - and the thing that would devastate and possible wipe out modern civilization - is not the blast wave of such a bomb, or even the radioactive fallout.  What would be most devastating is the amount of dust and debris kicked up into the atmosphere by a significant number of nuclear explosions.  That dust would quickly be spread through the upper atmosphere and would block a tremendous amount of sunlight, thus cooling the earth.  

As an example, in 1816 (&quot;the year without a summer&quot; as some historians call it) the earth experienced a larger than average rate of volcanic eruptions.  The ash ejected into the atmosphere from these volcanic eruptions was enough to cause famine on a nigh global scale.  Throughout much of Europe and North America, the summer growing season was virtually non-existent.  Snow fell well into the summer months.  The death toll from the lack of food was enormous.  And that was just the result of a few extra major volcanic eruptions.  A large scale nuclear war would kick up many many times that amount of ash.  The &quot;nuclear winter&quot; is what would destroy human civilization, not the blasts or radiation from the bombs.  Even if it were to last only 2 years, in that time it is likely that the vast majority of every large land animal population - including humans - would die of starvation.

We like to think that we are above nature; that we are invincible masters of the Earth.  But the reality of it is, we are still merely a part of the intricate web that props up all life on this planet.  The difference is, for the first time in the history of life, a species has the ability to put holes in that web large enough to cause its collapse.  What remains questionable is whether or not we are smart enough to have that ability, and yet wise enough to avoid destroying not only our one and only home, but so far as we know the only bastion of life in the entire universe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s probable that nobody will ever read this comment, but I still can&#8217;t bring myself to see a bad idea like the one presented in this article go unchallenged, lest it might spread too far.</p>
<p>The fatal flaw in this article is that it only considers the &#8220;total destruction&#8221; radius of modern nuclear weapons.  However, the real killer &#8211; and the thing that would devastate and possible wipe out modern civilization &#8211; is not the blast wave of such a bomb, or even the radioactive fallout.  What would be most devastating is the amount of dust and debris kicked up into the atmosphere by a significant number of nuclear explosions.  That dust would quickly be spread through the upper atmosphere and would block a tremendous amount of sunlight, thus cooling the earth.  </p>
<p>As an example, in 1816 (&#8221;the year without a summer&#8221; as some historians call it) the earth experienced a larger than average rate of volcanic eruptions.  The ash ejected into the atmosphere from these volcanic eruptions was enough to cause famine on a nigh global scale.  Throughout much of Europe and North America, the summer growing season was virtually non-existent.  Snow fell well into the summer months.  The death toll from the lack of food was enormous.  And that was just the result of a few extra major volcanic eruptions.  A large scale nuclear war would kick up many many times that amount of ash.  The &#8220;nuclear winter&#8221; is what would destroy human civilization, not the blasts or radiation from the bombs.  Even if it were to last only 2 years, in that time it is likely that the vast majority of every large land animal population &#8211; including humans &#8211; would die of starvation.</p>
<p>We like to think that we are above nature; that we are invincible masters of the Earth.  But the reality of it is, we are still merely a part of the intricate web that props up all life on this planet.  The difference is, for the first time in the history of life, a species has the ability to put holes in that web large enough to cause its collapse.  What remains questionable is whether or not we are smart enough to have that ability, and yet wise enough to avoid destroying not only our one and only home, but so far as we know the only bastion of life in the entire universe.</p>
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